In the discussion with Margaret Read, Director of Policy at the National Infrastructure Commission, the focus is on decarbonising the UK's heating systems to achieve net zero emissions by 2050. Currently, 88% of UK households rely on natural gas for heating, posing a significant challenge in reducing fossil fuel use. Heat pumps emerge as a promising solution due to their efficiency, with the government aiming to install 600,000 annually by 2028. However, challenges such as awareness, cost, and a trained supply chain remain hurdles to widespread adoption. Despite the appeal of hydrogen as a green solution, the NIC advocates for prioritizing electric heating over hydrogen due to logistical challenges and cost considerations. Energy efficiency through insulation is crucial, especially for vulnerable households, and support in the form of finance options is recommended. While the UK government plans to phase out natural gas heating by 2035, careful planning is essential to ensure a smooth transition and protect customers still reliant on gas.