During the second Trump administration, E. Dee Martin and Rebecca Brown discussed the future of the hydrogen industry, highlighting significant investments made in hydrogen proliferation through the bipartisan infrastructure law and the Inflation Reduction Act. The Department of Energy's hydrogen hub program and the 45V hydrogen production tax credit were key focal points for advancing the energy transition. The discussion also delved into the qualities and skills required for the Secretary of Energy, emphasizing the importance of executive experience and a deep understanding of global energy markets. The bipartisan support for the hydrogen hubs, covering 20 states in the US, points towards job creation and enhanced domestic energy security, especially in states where Trump won the election. The conversation also touched upon the potential risks associated with the finalization of 45V and the impact of regulatory changes under a new administration. Despite uncertainties, there is a positive outlook for the year 2025, with plans for proactive engagement with relevant stakeholders to further hydrogen energy policy and tax initiatives.